Comments on: Young Latinos Will Vote For Obama Or They Won’t Vote At All, Says Poll Funded By Obama Campaign http://guanabee.com/2008/02/young-latinos-will-vote-for-obama-or-they-wont-vote-at-all-says-poll-funded-by-obama-campaign/ Spicy Coverage: Gossip, media, culture and lifestyle for Latinos. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:34:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Ziggy http://guanabee.com/2008/02/young-latinos-will-vote-for-obama-or-they-wont-vote-at-all-says-poll-funded-by-obama-campaign/#comment-6955 Ziggy Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:07:08 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2352#comment-6955 The country needs a leader, not just a President: Throughout human history, great visionary leaders made great nations. From empire builders to army generals, vision has always been an essential part of leadership. Our country last visionary leader was JFK. Since then we have had presidents but not leaders. The difference is that presidents just govern people, but visionary leaders lead a nation. Leaders can read a nation's future and its destiny and can guide its people to fulfil that destiny. Leaders rise above partisan politics, presidents don't. Leaders bring unity, presidents don't. In time of international economic and political crisis like the one looming on the horizon, America needs a visionary leader not a partisan politician. A leader can rise above the crowd to guide us and help this country achieve greatness that is slipping away from it. Barak Obama above all represents a true visionary leader the nation needs at this momnet. If we fail to elect him and unit behind him against partisan politics and special interests, the future of this country will be doomed and America will loose its supremacy to rising nations who follow their visionary leaders. Furthemore, if Latinos voters in this country fail to see changes coming, and fail to hop on the Obama band wagon that will uplift this country and take it forward, then history will remember them as the minority group that held back this country because of their inability to see the future, and their inability to go behond their sectarian backward politics. The country needs a leader, not just a President:
Throughout human history, great visionary leaders made great nations. From empire builders to army generals, vision has always been an essential part of leadership. Our country last visionary leader was JFK. Since then we have had presidents but not leaders. The difference is that presidents just govern people, but visionary leaders lead a nation. Leaders can read a nation’s future and its destiny and can guide its people to fulfil that destiny. Leaders rise above partisan politics, presidents don’t. Leaders bring unity, presidents don’t. In time of international economic and political crisis like the one looming on the horizon, America needs a visionary leader not a partisan politician. A leader can rise above the crowd to guide us and help this country achieve greatness that is slipping away from it. Barak Obama above all represents a true visionary leader the nation needs at this momnet. If we fail to elect him and unit behind him against partisan politics and special interests, the future of this country will be doomed and America will loose its supremacy to rising nations who follow their visionary leaders.
Furthemore, if Latinos voters in this country fail to see changes coming, and fail to hop on the Obama band wagon that will uplift this country and take it forward, then history will remember them as the minority group that held back this country because of their inability to see the future, and their inability to go behond their sectarian backward politics.

]]> By: jm http://guanabee.com/2008/02/young-latinos-will-vote-for-obama-or-they-wont-vote-at-all-says-poll-funded-by-obama-campaign/#comment-6954 jm Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:45:35 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2352#comment-6954 @guana bust a nut....you're an idiot. @rebekah...you rock. @guana bust a nut….you’re an idiot.
@rebekah…you rock.

]]> By: Buttface http://guanabee.com/2008/02/young-latinos-will-vote-for-obama-or-they-wont-vote-at-all-says-poll-funded-by-obama-campaign/#comment-6953 Buttface Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:21:22 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2352#comment-6953 All of you Obama haters can eat scrotum! Obama has been a community organizer for mainly black and Latino neighborhoods for years. Ask any Hispanic from Illinois and they'll tell you of the work Obama has done in their communities. If he hasn't reached your neck of the woods it's because he's still working is way there, give him time, damn! Republicans don't have that stupid "brand loyalty" bullshit, they're smart enough to take chances with their candidates. That is why they were represented in the white house for 20 of the last 27 years. If the Repubs vote by our standards, GHULiani would be the front runner. Us dems who are older, female and Hispanic need to wise up, let go of the Clinton's old way of politics and allow Obama to usher us into a new era. All of you Obama haters can eat scrotum! Obama has been a community organizer for mainly black and Latino neighborhoods for years. Ask any Hispanic from Illinois and they’ll tell you of the work Obama has done in their communities. If he hasn’t reached your neck of the woods it’s because he’s still working is way there, give him time, damn!

Republicans don’t have that stupid “brand loyalty” bullshit, they’re smart enough to take chances with their candidates. That is why they were represented in the white house for 20 of the last 27 years. If the Repubs vote by our standards, GHULiani would be the front runner. Us dems who are older, female and Hispanic need to wise up, let go of the Clinton’s old way of politics and allow Obama to usher us into a new era.

]]> By: rebekah http://guanabee.com/2008/02/young-latinos-will-vote-for-obama-or-they-wont-vote-at-all-says-poll-funded-by-obama-campaign/#comment-6952 rebekah Sat, 16 Feb 2008 22:07:00 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2352#comment-6952 FYI Guana (and then we can dead this issue FINALLY)- I'm not offended by being called a mexican, I just didn't know why you found it pertinent to call me a mexican whore (or were tempted to anyway...). I don't know why you find it so important to label people all the time bu their ethnicities,it seems irrelevant to me. BTW, can you please tell me what YOU are so I can call you a "________ asshole"? Thanks! FYI Guana (and then we can dead this issue FINALLY)-

I’m not offended by being called a mexican, I just didn’t know why you found it pertinent to call me a mexican whore (or were tempted to anyway…). I don’t know why you find it so important to label people all the time bu their ethnicities,it seems irrelevant to me.

BTW, can you please tell me what YOU are so I can call you a “________ asshole”? Thanks!

]]> By: Guana Bust A Nut http://guanabee.com/2008/02/young-latinos-will-vote-for-obama-or-they-wont-vote-at-all-says-poll-funded-by-obama-campaign/#comment-6951 Guana Bust A Nut Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:49:01 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2352#comment-6951 @Rebekah: First of all, the term Mexican does not denote a particular race. I call my friend a German slut all the time. She's a slut who happens to be German. That's it. I find it interesting that you were offended by me calling you a Mexican (actually, I guess I should have called you a Mexican American). Some people are quite happy being called Mexicans. Sexual promiscuity (whoreness) is a behavior that is seen mostly in men, but also in some women. It's not my fault that women (particularly in Latino culture) are judged more harshly than men. I called you a whore, but I also have no problem pointing out that men are also promiscuous (even more so than women, in fact). You're an anonymous commenter and so am I. These comments are meaningless (they probably don't coincide with reality). Also, as someone else mentioned, this site is all about being irreverent and fun (and politically incorrect). And that's why I'm here. I LOVE that! And, yes, I'm an asshole (just like my mom). Tell me something I don't already know. Now, am I sexist? Hm, let's consider why I support Hillary Clinton: I'm tired of seeing men in positions of power. I've worked with men like Obama all my life. Sure, these men are attractive and eloquent speakers. They mean well, but men have failed to deliver serious change for women. Women still make only (plus or minus) 75 cents for every dollar that men earn. That's BS. No one seems to care about this issue. It's discrimination for crying out loud! I could go on and on. There are just too many examples to list here. My point: Hillary rocks! Women rock!!! @Rebekah: First of all, the term Mexican does not denote a particular race. I call my friend a German slut all the time. She’s a slut who happens to be German. That’s it. I find it interesting that you were offended by me calling you a Mexican (actually, I guess I should have called you a Mexican American). Some people are quite happy being called Mexicans.

Sexual promiscuity (whoreness) is a behavior that is seen mostly in men, but also in some women. It’s not my fault that women (particularly in Latino culture) are judged more harshly than men. I called you a whore, but I also have no problem pointing out that men are also promiscuous (even more so than women, in fact).

You’re an anonymous commenter and so am I. These comments are meaningless (they probably don’t coincide with reality). Also, as someone else mentioned, this site is all about being irreverent and fun (and politically incorrect). And that’s why I’m here. I LOVE that! And, yes, I’m an asshole (just like my mom). Tell me something I don’t already know.

Now, am I sexist? Hm, let’s consider why I support Hillary Clinton:

I’m tired of seeing men in positions of power. I’ve worked with men like Obama all my life. Sure, these men are attractive and eloquent speakers. They mean well, but men have failed to deliver serious change for women. Women still make only (plus or minus) 75 cents for every dollar that men earn. That’s BS. No one seems to care about this issue. It’s discrimination for crying out loud! I could go on and on. There are just too many examples to list here.

My point: Hillary rocks! Women rock!!!

]]> By: rebekah http://guanabee.com/2008/02/young-latinos-will-vote-for-obama-or-they-wont-vote-at-all-says-poll-funded-by-obama-campaign/#comment-6950 rebekah Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:26:53 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2352#comment-6950 Hey Guana Bust A Nut- "fucking ignorant"- totally uncalled for and very immature, I admit that... Moving on though, "I’m tempted to call you an ignorant Mexican whore"- Why does Mexican have to precede whore? I understand you calling me a whore; men have been using this term for almost forever to degrade and humiliate women. I'm interested in why you felt it necessary to add the word Mexican... It just REEKS of racism You'll note that I never mentioned YOUR heritage, an asshole is an asshole in any group. Why didn't anyone else call you on this? So its okay to be racist and sexist towards a person you don't agree with? For shame... Hey Guana Bust A Nut-

“fucking ignorant”- totally uncalled for and very immature, I admit that…

Moving on though, “I’m tempted to call you an ignorant Mexican whore”- Why does Mexican have to precede whore?
I understand you calling me a whore; men have been using this term for almost forever to degrade and humiliate women.
I’m interested in why you felt it necessary to add the word Mexican…

It just REEKS of racism

You’ll note that I never mentioned YOUR heritage, an asshole is an asshole in any group.

Why didn’t anyone else call you on this? So its okay to be racist and sexist towards a person you don’t agree with?

For shame…

]]> By: Guana Bust A Nut http://guanabee.com/2008/02/young-latinos-will-vote-for-obama-or-they-wont-vote-at-all-says-poll-funded-by-obama-campaign/#comment-6949 Guana Bust A Nut Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:54:26 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2352#comment-6949 Correction regarding the Punjab comment: His campaign released an email that included the infamous Punjab comment. Obama later claimed that he had no knowledge of it. (how Republican of him). Correction regarding the Punjab comment: His campaign released an email that included the infamous Punjab comment. Obama later claimed that he had no knowledge of it. (how Republican of him).

]]> By: Guana Bust A Nut http://guanabee.com/2008/02/young-latinos-will-vote-for-obama-or-they-wont-vote-at-all-says-poll-funded-by-obama-campaign/#comment-6948 Guana Bust A Nut Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:46:51 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2352#comment-6948 @Rebekah: How is that vague? Are you mentally deficient? He. Doesn't. Deal. With. Latinos. Directly. Also, he's already proven that, in the Obama world, it's all about being black and white in America. Immigrants (or hyphenated Americans) aren't as important to him. Also, FYI, he's already shown a negative attitude about foreigners in this country. Remember his Punjab comment? I work with many people of South Asian descent, and a number of them were not too happy. His campaign seemed to demonize South Asians as undesirables in this country. NOT COOL! Who's running his campaign? A group of xenophobic Republicans? Yep, he's already proven that he's insensitive to certain immigrant groups in this country. And his total disregard for Latinos before Super Tuesday showed his total disregard for minorities who aren't Africa-American. Of course, now that he wants to win, he's turning to Latinos. How lovely. Obviously, he earned your vote. So, Rebekah, I DON'T expect a personal invitation from politicians. And I DON'T expect a handwritten note and a handshake? I DO expect someone with as much political savvy as Obama to be respectful to Brown people (not just Blacks and Whites). I DO expect politicians to have more substance than style (this "yes we can" crap is getting on my nerves -- why do people still fall for that?). Hillary has a lot of baggage, but at least she's getting scrutinized, while Obama is getting a free ride. Also, using the phrase "you’re fucking ignorant" kind of cancels out your other statements: "Would it be too much to ask for people to respond to comments in a calm and respectful manner? Damn, don’t take it so personal, you know?" I'm tempted to call you an ignorant Mexican whore. I'm also tempted to assume that you have like 10 kids and an equal number of STDs. BUT . . . I see your point. We should respond to comments in a calm and respectful manner. Thanks for leading by example. You are such a pillar morality and civility, Rebekah. @Rebekah: How is that vague? Are you mentally deficient? He. Doesn’t. Deal. With. Latinos. Directly. Also, he’s already proven that, in the Obama world, it’s all about being black and white in America. Immigrants (or hyphenated Americans) aren’t as important to him. Also, FYI, he’s already shown a negative attitude about foreigners in this country. Remember his Punjab comment? I work with many people of South Asian descent, and a number of them were not too happy. His campaign seemed to demonize South Asians as undesirables in this country. NOT COOL! Who’s running his campaign? A group of xenophobic Republicans?

Yep, he’s already proven that he’s insensitive to certain immigrant groups in this country. And his total disregard for Latinos before Super Tuesday showed his total disregard for minorities who aren’t Africa-American. Of course, now that he wants to win, he’s turning to Latinos. How lovely. Obviously, he earned your vote.

So, Rebekah, I DON’T expect a personal invitation from politicians. And I DON’T expect a handwritten note and a handshake? I DO expect someone with as much political savvy as Obama to be respectful to Brown people (not just Blacks and Whites). I DO expect politicians to have more substance than style (this “yes we can” crap is getting on my nerves — why do people still fall for that?). Hillary has a lot of baggage, but at least she’s getting scrutinized, while Obama is getting a free ride.

Also, using the phrase “you’re fucking ignorant” kind of cancels out your other statements: “Would it be too much to ask for people to respond to comments in a calm and respectful manner? Damn, don’t take it so personal, you know?”

I’m tempted to call you an ignorant Mexican whore. I’m also tempted to assume that you have like 10 kids and an equal number of STDs. BUT . . . I see your point. We should respond to comments in a calm and respectful manner. Thanks for leading by example. You are such a pillar morality and civility, Rebekah.

]]> By: Marco http://guanabee.com/2008/02/young-latinos-will-vote-for-obama-or-they-wont-vote-at-all-says-poll-funded-by-obama-campaign/#comment-6947 Marco Fri, 15 Feb 2008 00:53:27 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2352#comment-6947 Hispanic Economics is a dumb name. Spiconomics, please. Hispanic Economics is a dumb name. Spiconomics, please.

]]> By: latinogamer http://guanabee.com/2008/02/young-latinos-will-vote-for-obama-or-they-wont-vote-at-all-says-poll-funded-by-obama-campaign/#comment-6946 latinogamer Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:52:33 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2352#comment-6946 dont look at me, i voted green. screw hilary, a democrat in republicans clothing dont look at me, i voted green. screw hilary, a democrat in republicans clothing

]]> By: rebekah http://guanabee.com/2008/02/young-latinos-will-vote-for-obama-or-they-wont-vote-at-all-says-poll-funded-by-obama-campaign/#comment-6945 rebekah Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:35:40 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2352#comment-6945 Ok!!!!!!!!! I added my "pounding from behind" comment as a fucking joke, not funny to anyone but me apparently, SORRY!!!!!! Obama is hella fine and yes, that excites me... but could you really expect anything better from me, a "promiscuous Latina"? I thought I was pretty chaste, 2 serious boyfriends in my entire life, but I guess you're right, I'm a cochina... @Marco- "Or is it really just that you want Obama to take you from behind"- thanks for insinuating my superficiality but you also know that I dig Chavez as well and you'll NEVER hear about me fantasizing sexually about him, if a man is handsome then he is, period. I also happen to think Mitt Romney is quite good-looking as well... @guana-"Obama doesn’t seem to deal with Latinos directly" wow, that sums up everything very nicely, could you be more VAGUE? What the fuck do you want, a personal invitation from politicians to vote for you? A handwritten note and a handshake? you're fucking ignorant. BUT PLEASE, can someone, ANYONE please explain the appeal of Hillary (I'm not going to even mention you know what)? I honestly want to know, I've yet to meet anyone who is/ has actually voted for her and that includes my mexican friends and relatives. And finally, Would it be too much to ask for people to respond to comments in a calm and respectful manner? Damn, don't take it so personal, you know? Ok!!!!!!!!! I added my “pounding from behind” comment as a fucking joke, not funny to anyone but me apparently, SORRY!!!!!!
Obama is hella fine and yes, that excites me… but could you really expect anything better from me, a “promiscuous Latina”? I thought I was pretty chaste, 2 serious boyfriends in my entire life, but I guess you’re right, I’m a cochina…

@Marco- “Or is it really just that you want Obama to take you from behind”- thanks for insinuating my superficiality but you also know that I dig Chavez as well and you’ll NEVER hear about me fantasizing sexually about him, if a man is handsome then he is, period. I also happen to think Mitt Romney is quite good-looking as well…

@guana-”Obama doesn’t seem to deal with Latinos directly”
wow, that sums up everything very nicely, could you be more VAGUE? What the fuck do you want, a personal invitation from politicians to vote for you? A handwritten note and a handshake? you’re fucking ignorant.

BUT PLEASE, can someone, ANYONE please explain the appeal of Hillary (I’m not going to even mention you know what)? I honestly want to know, I’ve yet to meet anyone who is/ has actually voted for her and that includes my mexican friends and relatives.

And finally,

Would it be too much to ask for people to respond to comments in a calm and respectful manner? Damn, don’t take it so personal, you know?

]]> By: Marco http://guanabee.com/2008/02/young-latinos-will-vote-for-obama-or-they-wont-vote-at-all-says-poll-funded-by-obama-campaign/#comment-6944 Marco Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:38:10 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2352#comment-6944 Oh, and also: (according to my Argentine boss anyway), Obama keeps a picture of Che in his office. That's so representative of something larger in Obama... that charisma, "hope" and "change' that, really, do you know what you're getting into? Is anyone listening? Or is it really just that you want Obama to take you from behind? Like, would Che be an icon if he wasn't handsome/played by Gael Garcia Bernal? Or maybe that was a right-wing conspiracy that got me on a rant. But, SERIOUSLY YOU GUYS! Oh, and also: (according to my Argentine boss anyway), Obama keeps a picture of Che in his office. That’s so representative of something larger in Obama… that charisma, “hope” and “change’ that, really, do you know what you’re getting into? Is anyone listening? Or is it really just that you want Obama to take you from behind? Like, would Che be an icon if he wasn’t handsome/played by Gael Garcia Bernal?

Or maybe that was a right-wing conspiracy that got me on a rant. But, SERIOUSLY YOU GUYS!

]]> By: Marco http://guanabee.com/2008/02/young-latinos-will-vote-for-obama-or-they-wont-vote-at-all-says-poll-funded-by-obama-campaign/#comment-6943 Marco Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:30:47 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2352#comment-6943 I'd rather walk into moving traffic than vote for Obama, so take that survey. I’d rather walk into moving traffic than vote for Obama, so take that survey.

]]> By: jason http://guanabee.com/2008/02/young-latinos-will-vote-for-obama-or-they-wont-vote-at-all-says-poll-funded-by-obama-campaign/#comment-6942 jason Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:47:51 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2352#comment-6942 Wait one second though---sorry to be a big nerd---But does a survey of 600 people actually mean anything? At all? Wait one second though—sorry to be a big nerd—But does a survey of 600 people actually mean anything? At all?

]]> By: jrod http://guanabee.com/2008/02/young-latinos-will-vote-for-obama-or-they-wont-vote-at-all-says-poll-funded-by-obama-campaign/#comment-6941 jrod Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:57:45 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2352#comment-6941 @Rebekah... So...shame on Guanabee, but you could "care less if Hillary or McCain win, all the same to you"? Pick up a damn book, groupie! Or better yet, go to a tall library and jump off the roof. Happy Valentines Everyone!!! @Rebekah…

So…shame on Guanabee, but you could “care less if Hillary or McCain win, all the same to you”? Pick up a damn book, groupie! Or better yet, go to a tall library and jump off the roof. Happy Valentines Everyone!!!

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