Comments on: Covering The Coverage: SF Weekly Could Use A Lesson On Race And Language http://guanabee.com/2008/03/covering-the-coverage-sf-weekly-could-use-a-lesson-on-race-and-language/ Spicy Coverage: Gossip, media, culture and lifestyle for Latinos. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:46:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: national http://guanabee.com/2008/03/covering-the-coverage-sf-weekly-could-use-a-lesson-on-race-and-language/#comment-9055 national Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:52:42 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2786#comment-9055 That Mexican singer name "nigga" is very offensive, and the reason why he doesnt get shit is because for American release he changed his name to Flex. Mexican culture has always been insensitive to people of African descent. That Mexican singer name “nigga” is very offensive, and the reason why he doesnt get shit is because for American release he changed his name to Flex. Mexican culture has always been insensitive to people of African descent.

]]> By: La Cindy http://guanabee.com/2008/03/covering-the-coverage-sf-weekly-could-use-a-lesson-on-race-and-language/#comment-9054 La Cindy Wed, 02 Apr 2008 22:48:01 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2786#comment-9054 I gotta say, "Fucking black person" is pretty much as offensive as "fucking nigger" in my book. This guy ain't getting any humanitarian awards. I gotta say, “Fucking black person” is pretty much as offensive as “fucking nigger” in my book. This guy ain’t getting any humanitarian awards.

]]> By: El Negro Tenzarta AKA boozer http://guanabee.com/2008/03/covering-the-coverage-sf-weekly-could-use-a-lesson-on-race-and-language/#comment-9053 El Negro Tenzarta AKA boozer Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:54:41 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2786#comment-9053 When you attach a pinche to anything it's usually bad. The word negro is not nigger, maybe mayate, llanta, chango, simio, mono, chapopote, tiznado, sombra, mayugo, memin pinguin, mapache, zorullo, etc. does mean nigga'. I think there's a Mexican singer that calls himself "Nigga", he is black, sings, dances, and does a bunch of shows and not a lot of people give him any shit. When you attach a pinche to anything it’s usually bad. The word negro is not nigger, maybe mayate, llanta, chango, simio, mono, chapopote, tiznado, sombra, mayugo, memin pinguin, mapache, zorullo, etc. does mean nigga’. I think there’s a Mexican singer that calls himself “Nigga”, he is black, sings, dances, and does a bunch of shows and not a lot of people give him any shit.

]]> By: El Pocho http://guanabee.com/2008/03/covering-the-coverage-sf-weekly-could-use-a-lesson-on-race-and-language/#comment-9052 El Pocho Fri, 28 Mar 2008 00:52:56 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2786#comment-9052 i always thought it was pinche mayate... i always thought it was pinche mayate…

]]> By: Paul Saucido http://guanabee.com/2008/03/covering-the-coverage-sf-weekly-could-use-a-lesson-on-race-and-language/#comment-9051 Paul Saucido Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:31:25 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2786#comment-9051 pinche writers... pinche writers…

]]> By: la roncha http://guanabee.com/2008/03/covering-the-coverage-sf-weekly-could-use-a-lesson-on-race-and-language/#comment-9050 la roncha Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:02:56 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2786#comment-9050 if that person really meant fucking niggers he should have said pinches mallates.. All the mexicans that i know call black people mallates when they want to offend a black person ....to me pinches negros is like saying fucking or stupid black people which is still kind of offensive because i know i dont want to be called a pinche "something" that writer should have not said it roughly translates to fucking nigger. because it doesn't if that person really meant fucking niggers he should have said pinches mallates.. All the mexicans that i know call black people mallates when they want to offend a black person
….to me pinches negros is like saying fucking or stupid black people which is still kind of offensive because i know i dont want to be called a pinche “something”

that writer should have not said it roughly translates to fucking nigger. because it doesn’t

]]> By: Xoch http://guanabee.com/2008/03/covering-the-coverage-sf-weekly-could-use-a-lesson-on-race-and-language/#comment-9049 Xoch Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:00:55 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2786#comment-9049 I think you could more accurately translate it as "these damn blacks". Or maybe even damn negroes. I agree that the n-word is much more insulting and hateful than the Spanish "negro", usually. But Spanish curse words / insults are magic! Their meaning /force can vary widely in different Latin American countrries, and it can shift depending on context or combination. Maybe this guy really DID want to say what the journalist translated. I think you could more accurately translate it as “these damn blacks”. Or maybe even damn negroes. I agree that the n-word is much more insulting and hateful than the Spanish “negro”, usually.

But Spanish curse words / insults are magic! Their meaning /force can vary widely in different Latin American countrries, and it can shift depending on context or combination. Maybe this guy really DID want to say what the journalist translated.

]]> By: hello http://guanabee.com/2008/03/covering-the-coverage-sf-weekly-could-use-a-lesson-on-race-and-language/#comment-9048 hello Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:35:49 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2786#comment-9048 And wouldn't it be "negro pinchado"? I don't know, I'm not Mexican, but "pinches negros" looks the terms don't agree, kind of like "Rosa Mexicano"... And wouldn’t it be “negro pinchado”? I don’t know, I’m not Mexican, but “pinches negros” looks the terms don’t agree, kind of like “Rosa Mexicano”…

]]> By: AskThisBlackWoman http://guanabee.com/2008/03/covering-the-coverage-sf-weekly-could-use-a-lesson-on-race-and-language/#comment-9047 AskThisBlackWoman Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:19:55 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2786#comment-9047 What if you say, "pinches negrita"? What if you say, “pinches negrita”?

]]> By: D http://guanabee.com/2008/03/covering-the-coverage-sf-weekly-could-use-a-lesson-on-race-and-language/#comment-9046 D Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:51:43 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2786#comment-9046 The reality is that if you want to argue semantics then you are right. However, the intent of this phrase is overwhelmingly offensive, and its meant to be. When most people say this, Im willing to bet, they mean "F***ing N*ggers." Lets just take our lumps and move on... The reality is that if you want to argue semantics then you are right.

However, the intent of this phrase is overwhelmingly offensive, and its meant to be.

When most people say this, Im willing to bet, they mean “F***ing N*ggers.”

Lets just take our lumps and move on…

]]> By: pocachica http://guanabee.com/2008/03/covering-the-coverage-sf-weekly-could-use-a-lesson-on-race-and-language/#comment-9045 pocachica Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:39:21 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2786#comment-9045 @latinogamer as a west coaster I can say that nope it doesn't. It means black. But srsly what is up with the tension between blacks and latinos? Interracial couples out there speak up! @latinogamer
as a west coaster I can say that nope it doesn’t. It means black. But srsly what is up with the tension between blacks and latinos? Interracial couples out there speak up!

]]> By: latinogamer http://guanabee.com/2008/03/covering-the-coverage-sf-weekly-could-use-a-lesson-on-race-and-language/#comment-9044 latinogamer Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:25:34 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2786#comment-9044 or maybe in the west coast, negro just means nigger when it is reffered to someone that is of african descent, but if i say to a hondureno or panameno, negro just means black.... the MADNESS! or maybe in the west coast, negro just means nigger when it is reffered to someone that is of african descent, but if i say to a hondureno or panameno, negro just means black….

the MADNESS!

]]> By: aydiosmio http://guanabee.com/2008/03/covering-the-coverage-sf-weekly-could-use-a-lesson-on-race-and-language/#comment-9043 aydiosmio Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:17:57 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2786#comment-9043 ...And here we see the umpteenth time where a non-Hispanic person, living in a nation filled with over 44 million Hispanics, is utterly ignorant of Hispanic culture and Spanish terminology to the point where she refers to a word as offensive just because it sort of sounds like another offensive word in English. Couldn't she look it up? Or ask someone? This sort of misunderstanding can only happen when there is a combiantion of ignorance and bad communication. I've been with a lot of people who see or hear "negro/negra/negrito/negrita," go on to ask "does that mean nigger?" and are then very incredulous when I tell them that it does not have the same blatanly offensive and racist connotation. Yes of course the terms negro and negrito have are many racist undercurrents, but they are not as openly insulting as the n-word. …And here we see the umpteenth time where a non-Hispanic person, living in a nation filled with over 44 million Hispanics, is utterly ignorant of Hispanic culture and Spanish terminology to the point where she refers to a word as offensive just because it sort of sounds like another offensive word in English. Couldn’t she look it up? Or ask someone? This sort of misunderstanding can only happen when there is a combiantion of ignorance and bad communication. I’ve been with a lot of people who see or hear “negro/negra/negrito/negrita,” go on to ask “does that mean nigger?” and are then very incredulous when I tell them that it does not have the same blatanly offensive and racist connotation. Yes of course the terms negro and negrito have are many racist undercurrents, but they are not as openly insulting as the n-word.

]]> By: latinogamer http://guanabee.com/2008/03/covering-the-coverage-sf-weekly-could-use-a-lesson-on-race-and-language/#comment-9042 latinogamer Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:16:49 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2786#comment-9042 does damn nigerians are taking all of our jobs....pinches negros! does damn nigerians are taking all of our jobs….pinches negros!

]]> By: Marco http://guanabee.com/2008/03/covering-the-coverage-sf-weekly-could-use-a-lesson-on-race-and-language/#comment-9041 Marco Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:59:16 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=2786#comment-9041 Please see relevant episode of "I Love New York," when Rico calls New York "negrita." Please see relevant episode of “I Love New York,” when Rico calls New York “negrita.”

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