Comments on: Friday Fresa Flatchback: Caifanes http://guanabee.com/2008/05/friday-fresa-flatchback-caifanes/ Spicy Coverage: Gossip, media, culture and lifestyle for Latinos. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:37:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: nanita http://guanabee.com/2008/05/friday-fresa-flatchback-caifanes/#comment-10809 nanita Tue, 06 May 2008 23:44:29 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=3222#comment-10809 It was her use of Emo and Cumbia to describe La Negra Tomasa that made me laugh. That was clever and pretty accurate. No, not in historical terms, but it's pretty dead-on. and for the poor soul who says people die over this sort of talk... jesus, maria y jose, don't we have more important issues than how your favorite band (from twenty fucking years ago!) is described in a blog? It was her use of Emo and Cumbia to describe La Negra Tomasa that made me laugh. That was clever and pretty accurate. No, not in historical terms, but it’s pretty dead-on.

and for the poor soul who says people die over this sort of talk… jesus, maria y jose, don’t we have more important issues than how your favorite band (from twenty fucking years ago!) is described in a blog?

]]> By: el vampiro http://guanabee.com/2008/05/friday-fresa-flatchback-caifanes/#comment-10808 el vampiro Tue, 06 May 2008 21:35:45 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=3222#comment-10808 Cindy, you are back on my cool list after putting boozR in his place for thinking mana has street cred. haha Cindy, you are back on my cool list after putting boozR in his place for thinking mana has street cred. haha

]]> By: La Cindy http://guanabee.com/2008/05/friday-fresa-flatchback-caifanes/#comment-10807 La Cindy Tue, 06 May 2008 18:50:05 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=3222#comment-10807 @Guana: But yet you keep illustrating it. @Guana: But yet you keep illustrating it.

]]> By: Guana Bust A Nut http://guanabee.com/2008/05/friday-fresa-flatchback-caifanes/#comment-10806 Guana Bust A Nut Tue, 06 May 2008 08:46:23 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=3222#comment-10806 First of all, I think it's total bs that Cindy uses, here and on other occasions, the "Latinos are stupid and/or don't have a sense of humor" line when people don't "get" what she's trying to say. Of course, she rarely considers the possibility that she may be wrong or misguided. Whatever. Honestly, I don't get why anyone would think that people are humorless because they criticize Cindy. An alliteration, as I'm sure you know, is used to emphasize a particular phrase. That's all. We can give Cindy a cookie for trying to be clever, sure, why not; but the phrase "Friday Fresa Flatchback" may come across differently to different people. How are people supposed to know that Cindy intended it to mean a certain thing? We're not psychic. Also, by considering people's reaction to your use of the terms *fresa* and *emo* as demonstrating a lack of humor, you're showing a very narrow-minded understanding of what humor is. Your target audience is very diverse, and just because you THINK something should be funny, doesn't mean that it IS (or should be) funny (to everyone). Man, I'm sick of explaining to Cindy that Latinos aren't stupid. First of all, I think it’s total bs that Cindy uses, here and on other occasions, the “Latinos are stupid and/or don’t have a sense of humor” line when people don’t “get” what she’s trying to say. Of course, she rarely considers the possibility that she may be wrong or misguided. Whatever.

Honestly, I don’t get why anyone would think that people are humorless because they criticize Cindy. An alliteration, as I’m sure you know, is used to emphasize a particular phrase. That’s all. We can give Cindy a cookie for trying to be clever, sure, why not; but the phrase “Friday Fresa Flatchback” may come across differently to different people. How are people supposed to know that Cindy intended it to mean a certain thing? We’re not psychic. Also, by considering people’s reaction to your use of the terms *fresa* and *emo* as demonstrating a lack of humor, you’re showing a very narrow-minded understanding of what humor is. Your target audience is very diverse, and just because you THINK something should be funny, doesn’t mean that it IS (or should be) funny (to everyone).

Man, I’m sick of explaining to Cindy that Latinos aren’t stupid.

]]> By: nanita http://guanabee.com/2008/05/friday-fresa-flatchback-caifanes/#comment-10805 nanita Tue, 06 May 2008 06:26:37 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=3222#comment-10805 @LaCindy Don't let the bastards get you down. What a humorless bunch. @LaCindy Don’t let the bastards get you down. What a humorless bunch.

]]> By: La Cindy http://guanabee.com/2008/05/friday-fresa-flatchback-caifanes/#comment-10804 La Cindy Tue, 06 May 2008 02:10:22 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=3222#comment-10804 @boozR: Mana has street cred? Bwa ha ha. Thanks for illustrating your musical knowledge. Now I know not to take anything you say seriously. @vampiro: Absolutely Caifanes was popular music. They were top 40 Latin Rock. Pop has not always been Britney Spears sounding stuff. Pop is short for popular music. Whatever is mainstream at the time is popular music. I don't know if you guys are old enough to remember, but Negra Tomasa was EVERYWHERE in 1990. It played on MTV en español for christ's sake. You guys in TJ may have thought you were all cutting edge, but you weren't. And they are not fresas, but everyone including fresas listened to them. And i'm so sick of explaining how to boil water to you people. ya. basta. @boozR: Mana has street cred? Bwa ha ha. Thanks for illustrating your musical knowledge. Now I know not to take anything you say seriously.

@vampiro: Absolutely Caifanes was popular music. They were top 40 Latin Rock. Pop has not always been Britney Spears sounding stuff. Pop is short for popular music. Whatever is mainstream at the time is popular music. I don’t know if you guys are old enough to remember, but Negra Tomasa was EVERYWHERE in 1990. It played on MTV en español for christ’s sake. You guys in TJ may have thought you were all cutting edge, but you weren’t. And they are not fresas, but everyone including fresas listened to them. And i’m so sick of explaining how to boil water to you people. ya. basta.

]]> By: BoozR http://guanabee.com/2008/05/friday-fresa-flatchback-caifanes/#comment-10803 BoozR Mon, 05 May 2008 23:21:36 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=3222#comment-10803 Me vale madre.. Los Caifas used to ROCK!! Maybe they are considered fresa by street standards cuz the people that listen to this are already grown up, act and dress better than when this band came out. Back when this came out, it was all about chicos y chicas de la calle listening to Caifanes. In TJ this band was worshipped by Rockeros, Punks, Surfos, Cholos, Stoners, etc. Fresas of that era listened to Timbiriche, Luis Miguel, Cristian, Mecano, Yuri, Thalia, and Magneto among others. Other bands with credible street cred and still rock to this day are...La Cuca, La Maldita, La Cafeta, Panteon Rococo, Tijuana No (Julieta Venegas), Victimas de Dr Cerebro, and of course Mana before they got really famous. Me vale madre.. Los Caifas used to ROCK!! Maybe they are considered fresa by street standards cuz the people that listen to this are already grown up, act and dress better than when this band came out. Back when this came out, it was all about chicos y chicas de la calle listening to Caifanes. In TJ this band was worshipped by Rockeros, Punks, Surfos, Cholos, Stoners, etc. Fresas of that era listened to Timbiriche, Luis Miguel, Cristian, Mecano, Yuri, Thalia, and Magneto among others. Other bands with credible street cred and still rock to this day are…La Cuca, La Maldita, La Cafeta, Panteon Rococo, Tijuana No (Julieta Venegas), Victimas de Dr Cerebro, and of course Mana before they got really famous.

]]> By: el vampiro http://guanabee.com/2008/05/friday-fresa-flatchback-caifanes/#comment-10802 el vampiro Mon, 05 May 2008 22:01:59 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=3222#comment-10802 @ la cindy comment, "The term fresa flashback is not meant to imply that the featured group will be fresa. It’s simply an alliterative title meant to connote nostalgia for bygone latin american pop music." ... i think we understand that you are giving us a flash back, but make sure you know what the flash back is... are you really saying that caifanes is/was a pop group? I think you really need to be careful when labeling music. especially when it comes to bands that have crazy fans that will die for them and take anything personal when someone says anything wrong about their fav rockeros. @ la cindy comment, “The term fresa flashback is not meant to imply that the featured group will be fresa. It’s simply an alliterative title meant to connote nostalgia for bygone latin american pop music.”

… i think we understand that you are giving us a flash back, but make sure you know what the flash back is… are you really saying that caifanes is/was a pop group? I think you really need to be careful when labeling music. especially when it comes to bands that have crazy fans that will die for them and take anything personal when someone says anything wrong about their fav rockeros.

]]> By: laura.s.d. http://guanabee.com/2008/05/friday-fresa-flatchback-caifanes/#comment-10801 laura.s.d. Mon, 05 May 2008 21:43:28 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=3222#comment-10801 I thought this blog was against physically defining nicknames for women. . .Negra Tomasa? Is there a double standard because this song is older? Well. Nevermind. I love Caifanes. I thought this blog was against physically defining nicknames for women. . .Negra Tomasa? Is there a double standard because this song is older?

Well. Nevermind. I love Caifanes.

]]> By: Daniel Mauser http://guanabee.com/2008/05/friday-fresa-flatchback-caifanes/#comment-10800 Daniel Mauser Mon, 05 May 2008 21:37:30 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=3222#comment-10800 Obviously everybody is touchy about how this, but I agree with Cindy the terms Fresa and Emo are meant to describe an epoch and a fashion movement. Some will like it and some will not. And oh,@pablo shore: Just squeeze some lime on your butthole and suck it up, no need to get nasty here. Obviously everybody is touchy about how this, but I agree with Cindy the terms Fresa and Emo are meant to describe an epoch and a fashion movement. Some will like it and some will not. And oh,@pablo shore: Just squeeze some lime on your butthole and suck it up, no need to get nasty here.

]]> By: La Cindy http://guanabee.com/2008/05/friday-fresa-flatchback-caifanes/#comment-10799 La Cindy Mon, 05 May 2008 18:47:19 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=3222#comment-10799 Don Francisco--I can only dream. Don Francisco–I can only dream.

]]> By: pablo shore http://guanabee.com/2008/05/friday-fresa-flatchback-caifanes/#comment-10798 pablo shore Mon, 05 May 2008 18:03:03 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=3222#comment-10798 @La Cindy: Maybe if your jokes were any good we wouldn't be so humorless. Why don't you watch some Don Francisco and learn some of his tricks, ah, pinche gringa? @La Cindy: Maybe if your jokes were any good we wouldn’t be so humorless. Why don’t you watch some Don Francisco and learn some of his tricks, ah, pinche gringa?

]]> By: lelly http://guanabee.com/2008/05/friday-fresa-flatchback-caifanes/#comment-10797 lelly Mon, 05 May 2008 09:00:59 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=3222#comment-10797 @lacindy stop making excuses. @lacindy
stop making excuses.

]]> By: La Cindy http://guanabee.com/2008/05/friday-fresa-flatchback-caifanes/#comment-10796 La Cindy Mon, 05 May 2008 06:39:18 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=3222#comment-10796 The term fresa flashback is not meant to imply that the featured group will be fresa. It's simply an alliterative title meant to connote nostalgia for bygone latin american pop music. Seriously, if you don't get that, it reveals more about your reading comprehension skills than you probably want people to know. Ditto for my use of the word emo. I called them emo because of their fashion--not the music. There's no such thing as emo-cumbia music. In fact, there are those who would say there's no such thing as emo music period. It's more of a fashion thing. Caifanes look like The Cure singing cumbia, for fuck's sake. God, it's depressing how humorless some Latinos are. The term fresa flashback is not meant to imply that the featured group will be fresa. It’s simply an alliterative title meant to connote nostalgia for bygone latin american pop music. Seriously, if you don’t get that, it reveals more about your reading comprehension skills than you probably want people to know. Ditto for my use of the word emo. I called them emo because of their fashion–not the music. There’s no such thing as emo-cumbia music. In fact, there are those who would say there’s no such thing as emo music period. It’s more of a fashion thing. Caifanes look like The Cure singing cumbia, for fuck’s sake. God, it’s depressing how humorless some Latinos are.

]]> By: Guerrero http://guanabee.com/2008/05/friday-fresa-flatchback-caifanes/#comment-10795 Guerrero Mon, 05 May 2008 06:12:15 +0000 http://guanabee.com/wordpress/?p=3222#comment-10795 Emo, Fresa, Naco, who really gives a shit? Are people really upset by this? Fact check: GBAN weighs 289 pounds and calls himself "big boned." And also has syphilis. Just the facts peeps. Besotes puto. Emo, Fresa, Naco, who really gives a shit? Are people really upset by this?

Fact check: GBAN weighs 289 pounds and calls himself “big boned.” And also has syphilis. Just the facts peeps.

Besotes puto.

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