TuesdaySeptember162008

Man Arrested For Raping Comatose Wife: A Discussion On Sex, Love And Consent

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‘Ello, lovelies. Last week, we discussed sluts, Jordin Sparks, and her pontificating on the subject of purity rings. This week, in equally happyfunshiny news, let’s break down a recent story regarding a man caught raping his wife on a hospital security camera as she lay in a coma. Romantic, right? (Assume everyone took that statement as sarcasm? Oh ho ho. Read on.) First, a few background details:

Police who videotaped a man having sex with his comatose wife in her nursing home room violated his constitutional rights, an appeals court ruled Thursday.
David W. Johnson, 59, had an expectation to privacy when he visited his wife, a stroke victim, at Divine Savior Nursing Home in Portage, the District 4 Court of Appeals ruled. Therefore, police violated his Fourth Amendment rights against unreasonable searches when they installed a hidden video camera in the room, the court said.

The news outlet reporting the story elected to call the act the man committed on his wife “sex,” and not specifically “rape.” Which seems patently absurd to us, given his wife is, you know. Unconscious. The equation “lack of ability to consent = rape” seems simple enough to us but, evidently, others disagree. Difference of opinion is what makes the world go round, after all:

Lucy7
First, it was his wife. She consented to maritial relations with her husband by entering in to the marriage, knowing full well that it was her responsibility “solely” to satisfy her husband sexual needs, within reason.
Does that mean that her husband has to ask her for sex every time? I would say yes, it is the gentleman thing to do, under normal circumstances. But this is not normal circumstances.
Sometimes desperate circumstances call for desperate measures. The court agreed that this man did not “rape” his “wife.” So STFU and stop imposing your poison from your past onto others! Understood?

And to think some people say “I love you” with chocolates. Or a lifetime spent sharing mutual admiration and respect. Like perverts or something.

We are terrified of the notion that because the man committing the rape happened to be the woman’s husband, he somehow has the right to unfettered access to her body whether or not she can grant him entry. We’re pretty sure we will never sign a contract allowing someone to use our bodies as that person sees fit, regardless on how we may feel about it. And we’re not keen on throwing a bouquet towards another woman who will be the next to feel flattered that her husband is forcibly entering her instead of paying a stranger to suck him off. Because, you know. Men are animals who cannot take no for an answer. They want sex, they’ll fucking get it, right? Of course. And if he fucks you even when you don’t agree to it, Miss Lady, it’s because he loves you oh so much. So take it as a compliment:

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I think that is so sweet and special. Most men would be out banging some hoochie mama, but to love her and visit her and take care of her and express his love to her. I would hope my husband would love me that much and maybe if it’s God’s will, she may revive.

Yes, goodness knows we’re eternally grateful whenever someone deigns to stick a penis into us. Sex is a compliment!

Ugh.

Look. We would hope that our husband would love us enough to hope that we derive an equal amount of pleasure from intercourse rather than resort to using us as a 5’4” Fleshlight. (This one, specifically.) And that, really, if we’re being completely honest, is what bothers us about this story. We’re used to news outlets referring to rape as sex and this stripping the act of being a violent, invasive, unwanted diminishing of another human being. We’re used to live in a society that doesn’t really get rape.

But, on an interpersonal level, we’re incredibly horrified that people can look at this specific instance and not automatically mentally recoil at the fact that this man, who people are arguing must have really loved and cared for his spouse, is using her as a masturbation sleeve with no thought as to her experience of the act. Sidestepping the question surrounding consent (She didn’t give it.), this man didn’t care for his wife’s sexual pleasure or her physical well-being.

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This is not an act of love. This is not something you do to someone you care for: You don’t steal from them. You don’t take away their agency. You don’t dehumanize them by rendering them an object for you to unload your sperm into.

You look out for loved ones. You protect them from harm. You make sure they have a voice and that this voice is heeded.

And that, ultimately, is what saddens us most about this story. That people would be willing to defend this man who treated his wife as if she were nothing.

How do you all feel about this though?

Is consenting to marry someone also consenting to loan them your body until death ‘til you part (Or, you know. Even after.)? Does sex without consent automatically equate to sex without love? Let us know what you think…

Court: Cops illegally taped nursing home sex [MSNBC]

Comments

Consent =Sex. No consent= Rape. She is comatose, unconscious but that does not mean she has given up rights to control her body from a sexual standpoint. Yes they may be married but it does not mean the man owns her body and can do what he pleases with it.(Check it- we have laws now that state that a woman is in control of her own body). She is not a flesh and blood blow up doll for his pleasure. If he had any respect for his wife he wouldn’t be raping her. And as for Lucy7if she read a little deeper she would realize that the courts most certainly did NOT say he wasn’t raping her. They threw the tape as evidence out.Theres a difference. What is awful also is that the nursing home was just doing their job,PROTECTING a woman unable to defend herself. Nobody knows what she wants or wanted so therefore you have to go on the premise that it is rape. Rape apologists especially women apologists, are disgusting. I hope the tables are never turned on them.

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Depends, maybe they got off on this sort of thing before she went into a coma, like they had an agreement that it turned both of them on if she pretended to be unconscious while he had sex with her, maybe it turned her on to be treated like a sex object. the difference, to me, is that yeah, now that’s she’s unconscious she really CAN’T say yes or no…she doesn’t even have the chance to use a safe word if she wanted to.

What turns people on and what agreements people make in their marriages is super complicated, but from an outside perspective this seems horribly wrong and thoughtless and abusive. I’d be curious to know more about why the man felt justified in what he did.

I love how people judge everyone else’s lives. This couple may have had a very strong love and sex may have been a large portion of it. Maybe he found the thought of never being with the woman he loved so overwhelming he needed to be with her. You know some sex is the ultimate expression of love, and just because you are in a coma doesn’t mean you do not know what is happening to you. People who have emerged from coma’s have stated that they could hear and understand but were not able to respond, so don’t automatically assume she didn’t feel anything, and you don’t know what he said to her. I know personally in my relationship with my wife, she would love to have me do this, we have a very physical relationship and love to take one another in the middle of the night when we are asleep, granted there is an expectation of us waking, but you don’t know their life style or relationship. Instead of always looking for the worst in another, this may have been a very strong act of love, he could leave a part of him inside her, and perhaps she likes that from her husband. Not all woman view sex as vile and an act to satisfy their husbands. Some wives actually love to get their husbands attention and like to be viewed as sex objects or sexual beings. Who are we to say she was raped, maybe by doing that he thought it might stir strong enough feelings that she’d emerge from her coma and come back to him. Just because it wasn’t playing a radio or reading a book or singing or whatever some people do to let their loved ones know they are there and are waiting for them to come back, doesn’t mean it wasn’t a heartfelt and emotionally charged act of love. Did you ever think it may have been a sorrowful experience for him, that she couldn’t respond. Maybe that is what he was hoping against hope to do, to give her something so important as to elicit any kind of a response from her. we need to stop judging others lives, things are not always what they seem upon first glance!

i agree with you, dear author.

and specifically, how could it have been a good idea when she was in a coma to have sexual relations with her? what if the act aggravated her health? all around perhaps not the brightest idea.

and if there was ever a reason to “cheat” or get a hooker, this would have been it. seriously, me being in a coma gives my man the right to get his rocks off with another consenting and conscious female so my ailing body doesn’t have to go through the physical trauma of sexual relations.

to the point made by BigRed43 about how coma patients are partially aware, ok fine but also, how would he have known that she was uncomfortable, had a muscle cramp or that the pressure of his body made breathing difficult for her?

a good rule of thumb when someone is ill is that they cannot function at 100% percent capacity like a healthy person can, so give them room to HEAL.

just saying.

Guanabee-You forgot to mention that the woman’s sister is upset that prosecutors brought charges. She believes that her sister’s husband was merely expressing his love for his wife and was TRYING EVERYTHING HE COULD TO BRING HER BACK TO CONSCIOUSNESS.

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