WednesdaySeptember102008

Slut-Shaming, Purity Rings, And The Only Interesting Thing To Have Happened At The 2008 VMAs: A Discussion

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We received an unexpected deluge of like three comments over the Watchando item on Jordin Sparks’ speech at the VMAs. You sluts and prudes really feel strongly about purity rings and Z-List celebrities! So we thought it’d be nice to open up a little discussion as to why we wrote what we did and why you all feel the way you do. Plus, it’s a nice opportunity to let you know that we (Or, well, I. Alex.) will be covering the sex and relationships beat on Guanabee. And, oh, beat we will, Guanababies. Beat we will. So let’s get started.

We think our use of the word “asshole,” led to our thoughts being misinterpreted. As “Gotit” so succinctly and fucking sarcastically put it:

Host of VMAs ridiculing Jonas Brothers (or whatever the hell their names are) for their sexual choices = totally cool, right on
Friend of Jonas Brothers sticking up for their sexual choices = total prude and a bitch who should shut up
VMA host using demeaning, belittling language about their sexual choices = totally cool, right on
Friend of Jonas brothers using demeaning, belittling language about others sexual choices = total prude and a bitch who should shut up
Sounds like Guanabee lays it our pretty well. Got it.

Actually, you didn’t get it at all. But it’s ok! We’re here to guide you through the murky waters that is understanding sex and pop culture. First off, we don’t personally refer to women as bitches. Ever. Nor do we advocate that Jordin Sparks shut up. Nor did we call her a prude. We did say that people who are self-righteous and judgmental are assholes. So, now that that’s clear, let’s figure out why we’re taking Jordin Sparks to task for her comments.

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It’s not the Jonas Brothers’ job to teach teens about sex or abstinence. They’re so young themselves and so lacking in life experiences that they’re not good advocates for anything except never, ever listening to Top 40 radio. Their job is to make entertaining music. It behooves the Co-Jonases to present an image of being wholesome, good boys because they make money for Disney and Disney caters to families and children. But it’s a slippery slope when the public congratulates a celebrity for being a role model, because chances are a celebrity will eventually do or say something you do not want your child emulating. Exhibit A: Britney Spears. Stars aren’t here to teach your children. You are. They’re here to sell concert tickets and issues of Tiger Beat.

Onto purity rings!

Purity rings. Are harmful. “Whoa,” you begin to type furiously, “That’s a judgment call, you asshole slut!” But, please. Let us explain.

The idea of a purity ring is damaging because the concept of purity is harmful. The opposite of abstinence is participation in sex. The opposite of pure is tarnished, dirty, used. So, people who have sex = dirty, used, imperfect. That’s a terrible image of sex to sell to impressionable young people who are forming their own ideas and expectations for what sex and relationships are like. Couple this with Jordin Sparks’ brilliant assertion that people who don’t wear purity rings = raging nympho sluts and you’ve got a recipe for a generation that will be totally fucked up when it comes to sex.

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Sex is neutral. It isn’t inherently bad or good or pleasurable or painful until people start bringing their own baggage and ideas and rhinestone merkins into the mix. To give people the impression that sex is dirty and that those who elect not to remain abstinent until marriage are somehow impure or slutty is an asshole move. Jordin Sparks wasn’t “sticking up for a sexual choice.” She was imposing her limited, narrow-minded, judgmental views on sex and participating in a dangerous little game designed to make sex shameful. And, as a public figure that probably figures into the choices of impressionable young people with poor taste in music, she should be called out on it. There’s a difference between berating Jordin for her beliefs and pointing out that her way of expressing those beliefs is damaging and judgmental. “Burro Hablando De Orejas” provides an example of someone who cannot tell the difference:

good job guanabee, pat on the back for demeaning the values of others and calling them self righteous judgmental assholes. not everybody thinks the way you do.

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Thanks! Look: Referring to someone as a self-righteous, judgmental asshole because they’ve readily and thoughtlessly insulted people and espouse harmful views isn’t demeaning their values. We think it’s great that Jordin has come up with a world view she’s comfortable with and we’re well aware not everyone thinks as we do. Our views on abstinence are complicated. We think there are many positives to waiting until marriage to have sex. But we definitely, unequivocally think Jordin Spark’s speech was awful. Her being self-righteous and judgmental has nothing to do with her choice to be astinent. But it has everything to do with her use of the word “slut.” There are so many ways she could have defended abstinence without resorting to name-calling and shaming. It is totally possible to advocate waiting until marriage without adding the concept of purity or a sense of righteous moralizing.

And, yes. Putting people down for their beliefs = Something an asshole does.

That’s the way we see it, anyway. What about you pack of filthy whores?

Comments

Sorry, I’m too busy trying to get my pre-marital nut on before 10 am to deal with this “logic” crap!

Oh snap Alex! You are really gonna burn hellfire. You’re a slut and no well written,thought out article is gonna change that!

I find one thing that helps with the shame of premarital sex, a nice hot shower and some exfoliating body scrub.

In all honesty, anyone over 16 who isn’t interested in some sort of sexual activity is not to be trusted. I wouldn’t want to marry someone who never felt compelled to experiment sexually. And by experiment, i mean have it or at least attempt to have it. And purity rings are a joke. I guarantee you those boys are not virgins.

I respect self-righteousness, if that’s what we’re a point of view these days, when you back it up. Jordin got hers across and isn’t backing away which is more than you’ve done Guanabeababy.
And why is Jordin getting ‘judged’ here anyway? Didn’t she do the exact same thing as that Brand fellow? He says sex is better, she says it’s not … you SLUT.

@marimari: Was that even coherent?

I was a purity ring in my former life

Standing up and applauding you!!!! Awesome, wonderful, extremely well-written post!

Absolutely - everyone has the right to their views and beliefs. However, you do not have the right to impose your beliefs on others, nor judge them for their own. That IS an asshole thing to do.

Obvs not to you Fredo. That’s OK.

I just saw the Russell Brand thing where he mentioned purity rings and all that… I have no idea what the hell you guys watched cuz it sure as hell didn’t seem like he was making fun of the Jonas for wearing rings… it seemed like he was saying the only thing that’s going to keep you “pure” is to control your dick.
Jordin Sparks is obviously an uptight bitch looking to pick a fight.

and marimari.. you didn’t make any sense at all, itsn’t a little too early to be drinking?

Isn’t Jordin Sparks like 16 or 17? I said a lot of stupid things at that age and I’m sure I called other people sluts. All the same, she can judge whoever she wants, but this might come back to bite her in the ass 3-5 years from now when she discovers drunken hook-ups.

The way i see it the Jonas bros are too young to be stating such as strong position on sexuality…I can tell you from experience i had plenty of class mates in high school who were convinced they would abstain from sex till marriage…4 years of college, 2 years of work and a few relationships later they’ve had premarital sex….As we get older we change, our minds mature, and our ideas on sex change!

Ive also met people who as teenagers decided not to have premarital sex and ended up getting married at 19 and one of the main motivators was to be able to have sex…once the novelty of the sex grew old..they were left wondering if they had made the right choice…

@marimari

Some people wear promise rings because they don’t want to be a slut. And, some people who were on American Idol could actually sing. A symbol does not verify worth. That’s why it’s a symbol.

Similarly, on the whole, people who have sex and don’t have personal issues about having sex for pleasure aren’t sluts. And, on the whole, people who wear promise rings are not perfect creatures.

Jordin may have been upset at Russel Brand’s joke. But one, he was there to make provocative jokes at other people’s expense. So, her shock is a little unjustified. And, two, I’m sure she thought there were jokes made at other people’s expense about their lifestyle choices that she probably laughed at.

So, I think these previous posts are merely trying to point out the hypocrisy of her statement.

I think there’s some religious passage or something that might be on point … something about throwing stones… .lemme see if I can think of it . . . hmmm …

@spandexican - on the contrary, it’s never too early but sadly not my problem today

@sylvie - really, how enlightening? hahah - you live in a perfect parallel universe where nobody judges or has an opinion. Here, we’re all judgy hypocrites.

Man, that seems like an awful lot of wordy blabbing on Guanabees part to make their point that it’s ok in their mind for some people to state and stick up their sexual preferences but not OK for others.

Can’t we all just get along? Nope, it’s as simple as a presidential election where the guns should be checked at the bar before someone gets really hurt.

I think the rule of thumb is that everyone is responsible for their own sexual maturity once at the “age of maturity.” Of course, some people never reach that “age.”

@ marimari: No, darling, you missed the point. Everyone is a judgy hypocrite. That’s my point. I’ll try to speak slower next time.

hello

I found this on a Google search. marimari is a dumbass. The guy who wrote this is making a huge, valid point, and marimari is clearly missing it.

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