God, Finally: Roseanne Weighs In On The Chris Brown / Rihanna Drama
19 February 2009, 10:26 AM. By Alex Alvarez
We can all pack up and do away with this whole blogging enterprise. Roseanne has cobbled together a little blahg about the whole Chris Brown / Rihanna, and she has pretty strong opinions about the whole thing in general, and, in particular, rumors that Rihanna “still loves” Chris.On February 16th, Roseanne took to her blog to give her take:
chris brown’s lies and excuses
make me want to beat the crap out of him…he uses the language of the perpetrator just like every sleazy bastard who ever smacked his wife, kid mother or girlfriend around uses. you dirty bastard, I hope you go to prison for ten years. IT’S YOUR FAULT, ASSHOLE! as for all the mealy mouthed hollywood and music scene chicks that can’t bring themselves to condemn a misogynistic bully, let me say this: your time as whores for propaganda is ending, bitches.
We were totally, 100% with her until the “whores” and “bitches” part. Because, let’s be clear about this: Domestic violence is not the fault of anyone but the perpetrator. If rumors as to why the two were arguing that night are true, we’ve been there. Not once did the person we were with think to strike us, much less punch us or strangle us into unconsciousness. The problem isn’t with the cause, it’s with the person creating the effect. Does keeping quiet or forgiving these acts of violence ultimately serve to perpetuate them? Of course. But those are symptomatic of the problem; they don’t cause it.
Moving on.
Roseanne then followed up with another blog post, which has since been removed from her website. Luckily, the internet has a good memory. Here it is, in full:
women who go back to men who have hit them are usually violent too–they escalate conflict by using verbal humiliation and often throw the first punch, but are then unable to withstand the strength of the man’s counter attack.
Alot of guys hit women because the women are hitting them, verbally abusing them or throwing the keys to their car outside and goading them on, and they lose control of themselves. This is what it sounds like to be in the rhianna-chris brown affair. there is no way out of violence if you are violent. the only way to win is not to play the game.
In the later stages, she won’t leave because her will is destroyed, and a violent line crossed, because once the guy threatens to kill her, it becomes almost impossible for her to leave.
i hope rhianna is getting counseling from a professional counselor who will tell her that there is no way for her to ever win, and that she will have to curtail her own penchant for escalating conflict by screaming at or hitting or humiliating her abuser. I hope he gets real counseling too, that is not from a minister or his mom or any other shame based bullshit method that will never work, and that is designed to avoid dealing directly with self-control issues. I hope that they both leave each other alone and get over their faults.
I hope she does not continue to play the game with him. If they still love each other after they learn self control and conflict resolution, then they can get back together.
Our take is that people who truly love one another do not put each other in harm’s way - and that includes pursuing a relationship historically marked by violence. We wonder why Roseanne took this post down - backtracking seems so at odds with the blunt and outspoken character she’s created for herself. What do you all think of her posts? Or, for that matter, the fact that she’s commenting in the first place?
…Or the fact that the photo on her blog looks like it was taken at a meeting of the Yaya Sweet Potato Purple Hat Sisterhood, circa 1994.
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I thinks it’s about damn time that someone step forward with an opinion. Every “celebrity” that has been asked has been skirting the question and giving vague answers or being downright apologetic about the whole thing. It’s ok to have an opinion.
I totally agree with Roseanne on this point. It seems to me that they are just in a fucked up relationship and need to get out and grow up cause they are both so young and inexperienced and feeling all kinds of pressure. She probably took it down because it may come across like she’s blaming the victim, but it’s true that a lot of times women are violent and abusive too and it’s hard to draw the line on what really happened. I totally think Chris Brown is a fuckface and I love Rihanna and hope she gets better and healthy soon, but I’m just saying that there are MANY situations of domestic violence where both parties are to blame. That’s why I like Roseanne’s post, “the only way to win is to not play the game, no way out of violence if you are violent.” Women who are violent are perpetrators too, despite the fact that the man may have done more damage in a particular altercation.
i have to agree with alejand. one of my bffs worked in the DA’s office in califas somewheres very near a big city. she thought she got her dream job when she got assigned to the domestic violence unit. “who wouldn’t want to put those emeffers behind bars?” she thought. fast forward a couple of years and the stories she would tell me were horrible acts of humanity, and eventually became too overwhelming for my friend. and she said actually the same thing that roseanne and alejand did: many times both people were physically violent (and she didn’t make it sound out to be in self defense either), and that whoever beat each other up the most by the time the cops showed up were the ones who were arrested. guess who in the couple that tends to be?
take from that what you will, and please note i’m not blaming rihanna or saying she deserved it at all, cause no one should be in a violent relationship. no one knows what happened that night except those two people, and the aftermath is really sad, apparently isn’t going away, and at least has gotten people talking about this issue.
for the record, my friend would shake her head and said mournfully that we are filling up the jails with people who just really need intensive therapy. indeed! don’t we all? and my friend doesn’t work in that DA’s office anymore.