Liv Tyler Learned A Valuable Lesson: Let Abuelitas Yell At Their Kids, Lest They Yell At You
18 June 2009, 11:43 AM. By Alex Alvarez
Liv Tyler learned the hard way (which would be, you know, while paparazzi are snapping pictures of you) that it is best not to meddle in the way other people choose to rear their children. Especially if those other people happen to be abuelitas wearing those little round 90s sunglasses.
Liv witnessed the woman shouting at a child in a stroller and intervened to make sure the child was ok. When the woman informed her that she could go and suck a chode, Liv walked away and called 911.
This is particularly timely given that, just yesterday, we mused whether the tabloids were making too much of Kate Gosselin’s decision to spank one of her children. Commenter mimiroro brought up the fact that some people who disagree with corporal punishment (like The Pinch™, The Matamoscas, The Chancletazo, or Abuelo’s Belt) might tend to want to interfere and lecture chankslap-happy parents:
[...]And I want other people to mind their own business, unless they have a legitimate reason to suspect *actual* abuse - I once had some very granola-crunchy guy run up to me in a certain big-box chain store after a mother dragged her tantrum-throwing kid into the ladies room to give the kid a few swats asking “IS SHE HURTING THAT CHILD???” I just kinda said “nah” while giving him the crazy-eye and then hurried along out to my car to get away from Mr. Over-Involved.
Also, Liv, who is a mom herself, did what we consider a big no-no. She touched another person’s kid while that person was attempting to discipline the little womb nugget:
The woman is beltless and both her shoes are on, so we’re not sure what she might have been doing that prompted Liv to come on over. Michael K says only that she had been yelling at the girl. Maybe she called her a plasta de mierda or told her Dora the Explorer got eaten by a chupacabra. Either way, what do you think of the way Liv handled this?
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If you see something say something. Maybe if someone paid better attention to my uncle’s profound fascination with my boyish beauty I would have saved years on my psychotherapy bill.
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I hope the abuelita yelled at Liv for wearing those shorts in public.
This is wrong on so many levels: “If you see something say something”. As the mother of two young sons, one of whom cherishes the moments he gets to throw his fits, I would react exactly like Abuelita did above if a complete unknowledgeable stranger tried to interfere in any discipline that I make with my son. First of all, everyone should know that children are very good at causing scenes. Secondly, the stranger (in this case Liz) has no clue as to the family history nor background, yet they want to automatically label the discipline as “abuse”? And then she had the gall to walk away and call 911? Sorry Liz & sorry Patrick…but both of you overreacted to this family situation. If Abuelita had grabbed the child & shook him or threw something at him - call it abuse. But in this case who is going to take Abuelita’s rights into consideration? Her right to raise her child/grandchild as she sees fit, her right to look out for her child/grandchild and discipline them accordingly, and her right to a fair trial. Liz & Patrick want to label her an abuser and quickly condemn her actions without even knowing everything there is to know about Abuelita and this situation.
Unless there was a real serious reason to suspect abuse - I would mind my business. I see stuff that I would never do to my kids being done to little “womb nuggets” (I like that one) - but its not my place to yell foul. If there was a serious beating or pulling of hair or ears or excessive yelling - that’s a different story. In this case I don’t know what the abuela was doing, but I think Liv should have minded her own business.
I know if I have to discipline my kid in public and someone is going to meddle, I wouldn’t take it lightly at all.
i wish i would have got spanked in public. it would have been way less harsh than the shit i got when mom scheduled an impromptu meeting in the bathroom. i say mind your business.
if people are threatened by someone’s observation or inquiry regarding their “discipline” techniques then they are probably are crossing the line in some way. Who knows if the old grandmother was abusing the child, but if she is “disciplining” her child in public and her actions make me uncomfortable, I would have no problem calling her out on it. It is hard enough to know what is going on behind closed doors in people’s homes regarding the choices they make regarding how they discipline their children, but in public you share my space and I am not afraid to have dialogue, especially if your offspring’s blood curdling screams are interfering with my Starbucks moment. In my experience, advocates of corporal punishment are really bad communicators, so I don’t expect much if I call someone out on their behavior but at least I tried for the kid. I would rather have a good parent take issue with me for speaking up at the wrong time, than have a poor kid get their ass kicked by an abusive parent because I was minding my own business and too afraid to stand up to the parent bully.
I agree with Patrick. I have a daughter, and I give her timeouts which has worked for me. I have spanked my kid in the past, but I try to not use violence to teach my kid a lesson, its kind of oxymoronish: “don’t do that, your acting bad so ima spank the shit outa your ass” ?!?!?!? I have decided against spanking my daughter now because I have learned, like what Patrick said, that communication is more beneficial to you and your child then you teaching them violence at home. I used to get my butt whooped by my dads belt, and he used to hit my sisters as well. Kids don’t forget that type of stuff. They are going to be hurt by other people in the world, why should they be getting hurt in their home. The old school ways don’t always work.
beating a child on the street is inappropriate and just plain wrong. but when a child is strapped in a stroller and is NOT being physically harmed, as is clearly the case here, it’s equally inappropriate and wrong for a stranger to walk up and intervene. she’s a pendeja for doing it and probably deserves a good chanclazo herself.
I think Liv is a sweetheart. Her heart was obviously in the right place…
That gmom looks Asian, by the way.
Other reports say “abuelita” was hitting the child repeatedly on the chest, how much worse if the child was strapped in a stroller? Pictures don’t show the whole story, you defenders of “discipline” chill out, it may have not been just a “spanking” in plain sight, but real abuse behind closed doors.